Building Better Care with Dr. Sean Coleman from Coast to Coast Physical Therapy

 🎙️ In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Sean Coleman, who turned his own experience with back-to-back injuries as a young athlete into a mission to bridge the gap in healthcare for both athletes and everyday professionals.

Dr. Sean shares his philosophy of care — one that focuses on working with the client, not just on them. By actively involving clients in their recovery process, he empowers them to take ownership of their movement, performance, and long-term health.

A conversation centered on collaboration, education, and building a better standard of care. ⚡️

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hello, everybody, and welcome back to another Nervotics QA. We are the Direct Current Company and proud leaders in direct current education, sharing real world experiences from athletes, coaches, and doctors, other professionals worldwide. But today's conversation is hosted by our CEO, who continues to lead the charge, driving innovation, expanding the reach, and pushing direct current further than ever before. Please welcome Matt Dell. Matt, good to see you again.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Wow, you're getting you're getting me fired up. We are pushing direct current everywhere. I'm kind of loving it.

SPEAKER_02 0:34

I mean, come on, let's be honest. If you're still using a TENS unit at this point, you probably still have like a rotary phone somewhere and you live in the snow caps of Patagonia. So you're probably not hearing this conversation anyway.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

Well, that's just we do have it's all about education. We've got to get people, you know, educated. And I think uh a great way to do it is is with our next guest, who I am extremely fired up to have on today.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

100%. Um, without further ado, let's give him a quick quick introduction so we can bring uh the brains in here and he can talk about his experiences. He's a doctor of physical therapy and a certified strength and conditioning specialist who focuses on bridging the gap between rehab and performance. He works with everyone from everyday athletes to high-level competitors, helping them to recover, move better, and get back to performing at their best. Please give a warm welcome to Dr. Sean Coleman. Hey, thanks for having me, guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

How you doing, Dr. Sean?

SPEAKER_01 1:30

I'm doing well.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

Fantastic. So for our listeners and and for ourselves, just tell us a little bit about yourself, where you're located, all that background stuff would be great.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

Yeah, I recently just relocated from uh San Diego to Summit, New Jersey. Um, my wife and I are from the East Coast, but we've been living in California the last seven years. Okay. Um during which time I started my own practice, a cash-based business in San Diego. Um during which time I partnered with somebody and moved out to the East Coast to now open up the East Coast version of Coast to Coast physical therapy. So that's kind of where I am today, and that's uh a brief synopsis of the seven years I had over there.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

So you're truly now coast to coast.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

Exactly. That was kind of the that was the brand that we were we were going with at the time. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

I love that. I mean, come on, San Diego weather to New Jersey, come talk to me there. I mean, that's let's get to the meat of what's going on. How do you leave paradise?

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Uh it was it was tough. I mean, paradise is only as good as the as the people that are there. We had a great, great crew in San Diego, but my wife and I's families uh are are in Long Island and Philly, respectively. So um New Jersey's a good middle point. It felt time to come back home.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

I love it. Now, how long have you been in New Jersey? Uh two months. Two months. Okay, so you're still getting going. This is perfect timing because you know, now for those that are watching uh on our audience, we've got another great uh clinic opportunity to kind of get direct current with uh Dr. Sean, unless you tell us something different and and you're not psyched about direct current. But you know, so you're give give our listeners a little bit about your background, where you got it. It sounds like you grew up on the East Coast, your schooling, all that fun stuff. What led you to your career?

SPEAKER_01 3:16

Yeah, I was a young athlete myself. I played college lacrosse. Um, obviously, that this is a very similar story to most PTs, you know, uh frequent injuries, had a really bad ankle surgery in high school, um, kind of got my wheels turning about the profession in the field of physical therapy from from my own experience. Um, and that's kind of what, you know, obviously, you know, I've been doing this for a little over 11 years now. So um lots of things have occurred in that time frame. But the main goal was was always just kind of fill in that gap in in care that I've been seeing. So um providing young athletes, whether it be current high school, collegiate, professional, um, or former athletes like myself who are still trying to train and and compete, you know, maybe not at that highest level, but um, there's a huge gap in the care from when you're competing to um what in-network care can provide. So um that's been my my current goal the last maybe five or six years of my career is has been trying to um really provide that level of um health care to the everyday kind of athlete. So um that's kind of how I got hooked up with direct current and being able to kind of do some things differently in my own practice versus like you guys mentioned in the intro, just your typical tens and um and low-level DCs that they're using.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

So yeah, I love it. I think you know what our biggest challenge, and it sounds is is all about education, right? I mean, we now our kind of slogan is this stuff has been around quietly. It's probably as quiet as any technology I've ever seen, just because it's really been only utilized by professional athletes, professional teams, and you know, as you know, probably around those professional athletes, it's it's a quiet community because they'll talk amongst themselves, but not really openly, you know, kind of share until they're kind of done with their careers. Because this is, as you'll see on any of our, you know, direct current hall of fame or some of these pro athletes, it's really a way that they truly help train, perform, and probably most importantly, recover. So that challenge is how do we bring that to kind of weekend warriors and just anybody, especially aspiring athletes, high school, collegiate. And it sounds like you've started integrating that both in your practice in San Diego and now in New Jersey. Tell us a little bit about, you know, kind of your perfect clientele, what you who do you like to work with, um, and and and how do they typically kind of find you and how do you find them?

SPEAKER_01 5:43

Um, yeah, I think just um my my ideal client is is kind of just someone like me or someone like us, just active people who who want to be involved in their active recovery. So I don't I don't do a lot of passive treatments and and that kind of segues into the into these systems, into these units. It's it's as you know, I guess what people think is a passive modality. Um I don't know what that is. I don't know the balloon thing. That was pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_02 6:10

How did you do that?

unknown 6:11

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 6:12

He's got some kind of magic tricks.

SPEAKER_01 6:15

I'm not super tech savvy, so I don't know what just happened, but um so I I think involved that you know getting the athlete to be involved in their care, and I think that's like um exactly what this system kind of allows you to do. It's dynamic, you can move with it on, it's you promote movement with it. So um, you know, that's that's why these, you know, this unit and and my client kind of it's it's just always been a perfect mesh and a perfect blend. Um I I put myself out there into the community. I'm in the gyms, I'm I'm doing run clubs, and I'm I'm I'm out there. So, you know, I I practice what I preach and and my my clients are me, you know. And so I think that's kind of how um I've always just genuinely marketed. And I think that's how people find me is on Instagram, just um or on uh on my website or or however. But you know, I'm I try to be a face in the community and and to and to promote change. And I think that um this direct current in the Nervo TX allows just that minimal barrier barrier to entry. You know, I can be at a at a a workout and someone be like, yeah, doc, I got this back pain, I don't know what to do with it. And it's like, all right, let me, you know, quick, you know, do a quick and dirty screen and see what's going on. Let me let me slap this unit on you real quick and kind of see how you how you respond. And it's obviously if they're appropriate, but it's immediate feedback, it's immediate buy-in, it's an it's an immediate kind of like, oh, this can help me get moving. And I think that's ultimately my ideal client is someone that's not looking to um get worked on, but to you know, to work with and and to to walk hand in hand in their care. Um, and that's kind of why I love this this unit particular, is because it gets you from table to floor, table to gym, um, while it's still on you. You know, I think that's kind of great.

SPEAKER_02 7:57

Okay, and sorry, Matt, um, only because I'm thinking about a video I I kind of ripped from your Instagram. And everything you just said is exactly this. And if if you don't mind, uh bear with me. I want to I want to play this uh because it's exactly what you did. You you took this young athlete and you were you had him, you know, kind of face down. You looks like you did some cupping. He was going through movements and you kind of built him up through this movement while using direct current and going through looks like he's a baseball player.

SPEAKER_01 8:24

Yeah, I mean it's it's on. He's he's using it on right now, right? So um that's all that's exactly what we did. You know, it it's it was so this is a kid that I've I've been treating in network. I'm currently kind of um since I just moved here, I'm I'm kind of just picking up hours at clinics here and there, so I can kind of pay some bills while I start the business, right? But um, he's an athlete that was working with it in network and you know went from kind of just the typical like mid-thoracic uh costro-vertebral kind of kind of sprain strain where deep breaths and rotation, all these things kind of were very bothersome. And um, getting him from zero to 70 percent was was relatively easy, just you know, just pain management and and getting me moving. But the the gap between the 70 to let me swing pain free was like really sticky. He had been to several providers before, um, other sports physical therapists and whatnot. And um, and right away I was like, I I I know why these guys couldn't get you there. It's it's just the system, it's it's what we have available. So um I started working with him a little bit in that phase in network, and then we started kind of going a bit more privately, um, where I can do a bit more. And that's where, you know, in months and months and months of him trying to go from zero to 70, um, and even more months kind of going from 70 to 100%, um, in about two and a half weeks, we went to him swinging pain-free, and I haven't seen him since. And that's kind of my business model.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

So wow, yeah, that that's a good client to have because you're fixed him, and and it's amazing, you know, we're we're seeing that on a regular basis, especially everything you just described in terms of how movement is medicine, how it, you know, so much has changed in the last probably seven, 10 years that you've been in this game, you know, in terms of movement and devices like direct current and and now having a device that you know is over the counter, that you know, basically anybody, you know, can utilize and take advantage and train like a pro and recover like a pro. Getting through those compensations, and and that's a great video, Jake. Thanks for bringing that up, is is is kind of the whole key, right? You can it sounds like he got you know to that 70, but to truly, you know, almost recharge the neurological system to get him to a point where those compensations aren't occurring so he can swing freely, is exactly the work that you did with that particular uh young athlete. Is that pretty accurate?

SPEAKER_01 10:50

Yeah, 100%. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

And and for our uh our our audience, please, I love asking the question. Since it's the best kept secret, how how and when did you hear about direct current and what were some of your first exposures to it? Uh and uh and I'll ask the next question of what are some of your greatest success stories uh that you've seen.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

Yeah, uh my introduction is kind of a funny story, you know. So I mentioned before I'm from Philly um and used to work at a sports clinic down by the stadiums in South Philly. Um and uh an athlete I worked with who was uh in a college lacrosse player, rehabbed him, got him better from the Philly area. He reached out to me when I was working in San Diego and just opened up my clinic, and he had been working for you guys. Um, and he knew me, he knew of me, he knew that I was out in San Diego and he knew my style from you know him being a former patient. Um and for him, it was an easy connection. It was like, yo, like you know, let's reconnect. I've got a device I want to kind of show you. He came into the clinic, we we you know, we uh we reconnected quite a bit and it was great. And um, and I was sold, you know, he put it on me. I'm always gonna test out the things that I'm giving my clients. So um he worked with me using it, you know, came in several days and just kind of you know, kind of put it on some different things that I'd been dealing with and was like, wow, I can really feed that feel that immediate feedback myself. Um so that was my intro, which is I think kind of a funny story. But um those immediate success stories are kind of the ones where um, you know, I I find personally that when I get that that patient that's got that, just it's just that um that true muscle kind of uh neuromuscular kind of uh reintegration issue where it's it's just a little bit not responsive to the active movements just yet, is responding very well to the passive work, but um it's hard to get them off the table. Those are my my success stories. And I I hammer that to the patient too, is like, look, like we have to get you off this table, right? Like we have to get you moving. And I think that the device with that immediate kind of just that they can just really feel it heightened, and then they can feel themselves kind of adapting and acclimating to the stress, and you can just see them just kind of go from that sympathetic to that kind of they start to kind of wind back down towards baseline, and it's like, whoa, I'm not completely better, but like that's a 75% improvement, like right away. And then I can do my good work. So I think that that's that's kind of where I've been finding um those immediate buy-ins, is when I can get that person kind of that where they're stuck, it unsticks them, and then we can do our good work with our rehab.

SPEAKER_00 13:31

Yeah, that sounds I mean, the uns, I mean, that's so such an accurate description. I mean, it is it's I I'm laughing because I I hear your stories and I hear your uh description of this, and it is it's almost too good to be true because we've heard this over and over and over again. It's just like it's it's unfortunate that everybody in today's society is so skeptical of anything new because you're hearing all these claims, you're hearing all these devices, and it's like to hear it over and over and to be able to use it real hand. Out of curiosity, you know what what direct current product do you use of ours?

SPEAKER_01 14:08

I am using oh man, I just got the uh I'm blanking on the names, it just got the newer one.

SPEAKER_00 14:14

Um the DX500?

SPEAKER_01 14:16

Yes, that one. Okay, small, the handheld unit. Sorry, I blanked it on the name of it so I'm all good. So at least you got one. Yeah, that's good. I've been using the original kind of handheld um oh the okay, the PRS. Yeah, the PRS, the uh that unit for I probably got it in 2022. Okay. And that one's still in San Diego. My my partner Teresa is using that out there, and now I have the um the the newer DX here.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

Love it. Well, tell tell our audience, it sounds like you've had experience with both units. What are some of the differences in your opinion between the two?

SPEAKER_01 14:53

Um, I do like with the the newer unit the the ability to control both channels the same uh differently. Um I believe the original unit, it was just kind of like a um one for for both channels for the four electrodes. Um and with this one, you can control um the electrodes on both sides differently. So you can kind of have a patient, you know. An example is when I use kind of like an anterior chain, posterior chain approach for that shoulder girdle. And sometimes with the original unit, you crank it up and they they really feel the hypersensitive tissue a lot more. Um, so with the newer unit, we can kind of we can kind of taper one side and and really deliver it to a specific muscle group, whereas the other muscle group we can kind of like let be the balance. Um, so I find that customization from the two uh different electrodes uh or different channels to be very helpful.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

Yeah, good. That's uh that's awesome. Uh yeah, glad to hear that you've you've had experience with both. And and uh yeah, this is it's exciting because it's it's it's starting to take on. We I know personally firsthand, it's like it's it's amazing technology after just recovery, you know, uh kind of foot baths, just it, you know, it seems more complicated than it is, but we're you know, we're we're trying every day to simplify it and having doctors like you out there utilizing and integrating it. It's the easiest way to educate people on okay, what is going on. And then they once they get through that first initial, okay, what is this? That's when they start seeing those successes. And then it's almost kind of as Jay can attest, we have so many clients that use it and just are kind of religious whether they're using it three, four days a week, but it it becomes such a a practice. Um, yeah. I mean, Jake, what are your thoughts on?

SPEAKER_02 16:46

Yeah, you know, I I always I I love how you say it in the in it because it's so it's so true with all the doctors that we worked with, you always call them artists. And it it's no exception with you, Dr. Sean. And I'm not just pumping you up because you're in here, but every Instagram that I look at, it's not just our technology, you're an artist regardless. And so to the fact that we're getting it in the hands of doctors like you, um, not only not only uh are you an artist, but you care about your patients. I think I saw a video where you are literally fighting the insurance company to get more sessions for one of your patients. I've never seen that, which is awesome. It just goes to show you know the amount of care and concern of doctors that are actually really good. They truly separate themselves uh from the mainstream. And and unfortunately, direct current isn't mainstream yet, but I will say, I think the doctors with creativity and artistry and willing to go outside the box, I think that is going to be the future, which will eventually become the mainstream. You're just a forward-thinking doctor. And boy, uh the trendsetter of something where I think is the future. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

Yeah, for sure. So tell us, uh, do you do you have do are you a big foot bath guy? Do you utilize it quite a bit for you so for yourself personally and for for clients?

SPEAKER_01 18:06

Yeah, I I don't a ton with the foot bath in particular. Um, mainly just because of uh an access type of thing. Like in my in my practice in San Diego, we were like the upstairs uh main floor to a big CrossFit gym, 6,000 square foot gym. Um so just in terms of like just having a foot bath up there and space-wise, it just didn't fit well into my practice. Um, but I've utilized it quite a bit on myself. Um I've I've had like Achilles and um lower leg, you know, peroneal tendon type of stuff from getting back into sports and running. And um and the foot bath is it's it's super nice. It's just one of those things where just in in practice, it's uh it's just like any other tool, right? So that's kind of how I I cater um to my clients and my surroundings. It's you know, it's best tool for the best job, and and just just from where I was, it wasn't super accessible.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

Yeah, and it makes sense. I mean, water supply is always critical, but yeah, also in your world, it's like, hey, your patients are coming in there, they they want hands-on, they want you moving them, they want you know, all that. So it's a little unique when you sit there and say, Okay, yep, come on in. And then it's as simple as okay, sit here, you know, and and work at you know, these different protocols, and and you know, I mean, it's it's a it's a completely different game. But we were seeing, I'm just now a I mean, huge advocate. We just both Jake and I, you know, helped uh we did a triathlon. And man, it was even for a guy like myself who uses it three, four days a week, it was pretty amazing seeing the not only my personal reaction to a great foot bath after a race, but man, the the we we supported the U.S. pickleball, we supported a triathlon, and to see these pro athletes and weekend warriors and the reaction after a you know a simple 10-minute bath, foot bath, Jake, you know, yeah, help me here because you were you were a witness to it all as well. And I think it's the easiest way to take advantage of the trick directly.

SPEAKER_02 20:07

And and sometimes there are tears. You know, people are I don't think people expect to to get the reaction that they do in some cases where they're they're immediately getting a response or they immediately feel better. Um, it it certainly never gets old. You know, to Matt's point, we did another big event before that. We were at the U.S. pickleball tournament, and people are coming back numerous times because we became their recovery tent. You know, even though there was a med tent that was out there, they were kind of dropping the ball, no offense, but that's kind of the case. So there was a line um literally to get a foot bath before or after some of their games. Uh it just never gets old. So we love to hear the success, you know.

SPEAKER_00 20:46

Yeah, at all levels. I mean, from from the and obviously that that's the elite of the of the elite, including the pro levels. I mean, it's like the they they I got a text from one of the pros, literally said his feet felt the best it's ever found. And he's got you know, and pickleball, I'm not sure if you're a pickleballer, but it it's it's probably the best thing that ever could happen to your practice because you got so many people now engaging in the sport. It's like you just have to go hang out at a pickleball court and you know, with the sign, let me help you, because everybody's got something going on, especially, you know. But uh yeah, that's that's pretty good. Um, so so how so you're you're breaking into Jersey, trying to build a practice. What's the easiest way for our listeners to kind of connect with you and how do they find you?

SPEAKER_01 21:35

Yeah, usually on Instagram. Yeah, it's been a a great way to um, you know, one of my biggest things is just accessibility, you know, to to doctors, to questions. So, you know, I take free phone calls all the time, you know, people just to reach out, um, you know, shoot me a DM. It's it's me, it's not some admin person answering your DM. It's all me. So um I'm always chatting with people. I think people are hesitant to to reach out, they don't quite, you know, know if it's um Um if someone's approachable. And I hope that at the very least this uh this chat shows that you know there are docs that are approachable. Just shoot me a message. I'm always happy to chat people through their things.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

Are you cash basis now or you do insurance or what's your practice look like now? Uh cash based. Cash base. Okay. So that's which is the same to that's it seems to be the direction, you know, only because insurance is so slow to to adapt. You know, and anybody that's ever gone to a PT where, you know, the insurance covers it, it's it's pretty, it's a long battle because you're, you know, tell our listeners a little bit. I mean, nothing not bashing PTs, but when you're sitting there and I've gone through them because I had a torn labor before I was involved in this company, and you're sitting there doing some bands and some work that are just you're trying to contract and strengthen some areas of compensation, and then they throw a tens unit on you just so you come back because it feels good. I mean, to tell our audience a little bit about because they've all experienced probably PT if they've gone through it, but how is how and why is it so different now? Be you know, in your in your perception.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

Yeah. How much time do you guys have? This is kind of my passion at this point. Um, yeah, it's you know, it's it's becoming like a um a reimbursement kind of issue for the for the in-network care. Um, I'm currently on a travel contract, uh a six-month travel contract with the in-network facility. Um, it's a big hospital system here in New Jersey. Um, typical kind of clinic, I'm there eight hours a day. Um, it's great. They great PTs. Um, but because it's a big hospital system, it's its productivity is a very big deal. So um we're required to see a certain amount of patients per hour per day. Um, so you take any really, really great physical therapist and divide their attention and time by three, um, you're gonna have a bad physical therapist. That's just that simple, right? If I I'm if I'm awesome, right? I don't know if I am or not, but just right away, if I if I'm only if I'm only able to give you know th three people at once attention, they're only gonna get 33% of my brain, right? So um, and that goes into kind of the gatekeeping of care as well. Cause like you said, the slap attends unit on someone, um, that's so that I can maybe have uh an extension of my hands on someone while I'm having my hands on someone else, right? So um I think when you when you tie all that in, it's it's um it's really difficult to provide the level of care that I can with someone that's one-on-one. Um, and that's kind of why I think a lot of physical therapists that do care um are going into that separate side because it allows the people that care to elicit the results that they know they can get with no handcuffs. So yeah, that's kind of why I do it. And to be honest with you, the big hospital system that I'm I'm in right now, the the out-of-network costs and the um the per session costs to cover the deductible are more than I charge cash-based. So it just goes to show you kind of like, and you don't know that until maybe your third session, right? So um, luckily the system I'm in right now is very upfront. They tell people, which not a lot of clinics do, they tell people every single breakdown of of what their bill will be before they start, and they give the patient the option to say yes or no. Um, most clinics don't do that, they kind of bring it in and then retrospectively it's like, oh, this is what you owe. And now you're like, I'm not going back there for my eighth session.

unknown 25:26

Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

And now we and now we lost that patient, right? So so I think it's just a matter of accessibility of care and and being able to provide the quality that we know we can do effectively.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

Yeah, I that's great. I mean, I I do want to ask you because I'm always looking for the best answer. How do you describe the one question that everybody asks is this a tens unit? How do you describe direct current versus a tens? Because I still don't have a great elevator pitch. So I'm putting you on the spot, you got 30 seconds.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

No, that the the 10 the 10s unit is a um, I always describe it as it's to give yourself if it's to give your brain something different to think about, right? Like it's the tens unit is is a is on purpose, very different than how we feel, right? I bump my head on the on a cabinet and I rub. The reason I rub is so I can get something different pathway-wise to my brain. When I stop, it hurts again. When I do it again, it stops hurting as much, right? So that's all the tens unit's doing. It's tricking your brain, right? So the the DC and these units are are trying to reintegrate your brain. It's a very similar pathway, a very similar contraction, all or nothing through movement. So, you know, when you're when you're looking to get someone out of pain, sure. There are many other ways we can do that. TENS unit, awesome. Um, but if you're looking to facilitate that next level of care, we have to do something that your brain is familiar with, and that's where the DC comes in.

SPEAKER_00 26:54

Wow, Jake. I mean, I can you do this? I want balloons.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

We we gotta ask Dr. Shaw. What did you do?

SPEAKER_00 27:03

What did you do to get those balloons? Because that was that was awesome. That is such a great description. I mean, it is the probably the most trickiest question to ask is as is, you know, how does differ? And then once your your patients or anybody starts experiencing the success of it, it it kind of goes away. But uh well, well, Dr. Sean, I know we're you're you're a little short on time, and we cannot thank you enough. This was an incredible insight, you know, whatever we can do to help you practice as you grow it in New Jersey. Still scratching my head about the San Diego climate versus New Jersey, but you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 27:44

Well, I survived. I mean, now it's like 72 inside a year, so it's yeah, now, right?

SPEAKER_00 27:49

We're not gonna do a QA with you in January. No chance.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

You'll be like, Oh no, I won't be this bubbly, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_00 27:55

But at least you always keep now that you're coast to coast, you can go coast to coast and uh uh back out to San Diego to visit all the time I'm always I'm always gonna bring a little bit of that with me here, so it's all good. Well, uh you know, thanks for your time today, Jake. Anything you want to say to wrap up?

SPEAKER_02 28:11

Uh no, I just I I appreciate everything you do, Dr. Sean. Uh, thanks for you know your sacrifices. I it's uh I don't think people talk about that as much as when you're a doctor that's hands-on and and you literally have to grind more, especially when it's cash base. Um, I'm not saying doctors that don't, you know, that that you know do insurance don't care. Um, I just think it takes more effort for you to care. And I think it it the exem the example of what you're giving on Instagram really, it doesn't even probably even scratch the surface of how much you're doing um in the community. So just thanks again and thanks for bringing direct current into your practice. Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Thank you guys. Great, appreciate it. Uh and Jake, I think we can wrap because I want to definitely hang with Dr. uh Sean for a second, but uh another great show.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

Yeah, 100%. Um it's uh, you know, I I don't know. That was I that was the best uh description between uh DC and AC we have. That's gotta be a clip right there.

SPEAKER_00 29:12

Yeah, no doubt. That's we're that's gonna go viral because it's like I'm tired of trying to educate and say it, and I'm sure I'm butchering it. That was probably as good as I've heard. So thank you for that.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

Yeah, well, I mean you get you get it asked a lot and you gotta connect with people and and speak in their language. So I think it uh it just comes with the reps, and I've been using it for a long time.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

Um how can the clients reach out to you? Did we ask you that, Dr. Sean? Yeah, we're paying attention, Jake.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

Yeah, yeah, just just on Instagram or um, you know, uh my email is there. There's there's um, you know, it's my my my personal email, my business email is also on there, Coast to Coast PT. Um, there it is. Yeah. So we have a website too. But um, like I said before, we're just we're approachable. We we want to chat and connect with people. So, you know, comment on our posts, DM us. Um, it's myself and Teresa Berg. She's a great PT over in in San Diego holding it down out there. So um yeah, shoot us a message. We're happy to connect.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

I love it. And for those that are watching, please, if you want to hear and see some of the tags and some of the collaborations and all, you know, please follow us and uh at all our our socials because you'll see not only Dr. Sean's stories, but you're gonna see a lot of other pro athletes and and clinicians that are using direct currents. So um, and subscribe to our YouTube because there's unbelievable videos uh to to whether it's condition based or you know, how to or whatever. So uh Dr. Sean, thank you so much for your time today. And uh please, you know, hold on backstage because I'd love to chat for a minute. Thank you guys. Jay, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

Yeah, pleasure. Good to see you again. Take care, guys.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

See ya.