AMA 250 Supercross & Motocross Champion Trey Canard

This week on the podcast — AMA 250 Supercross & Motocross Champion Trey Canard.

From hopping on a bike at just 3 years old to going pro at 16, Trey shares the mindset, passion, and adrenaline behind a career in motocross.

In a sport where it’s not “if” you get hurt — but “when” — Trey opens up about the devastating spinal injury he suffered in 2012 that many believed would end his career. After thinking he may never race again, he came back the very next year and finished 2nd, proving resilience can take you farther than fear ever will.

Trey also dives into how he discovered Direct Current Neuro Therapy after a wrist injury — and why it became a game changer in his recovery process.

A powerful conversation on injury, mindset, recovery, and what it really takes to come back stronger. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello, everybody, and welcome back to another Nervotics QA. We are the Direct Current company and proud leaders in Direct Current Education, sharing real world experiences from athletes, coaches, doctors, and other professionals worldwide. Today's conversation is hosted by our CEO, who continues to lead the charge in driving innovation, expanding the reach, and pushing the direct current therapy further than ever before. Matt Dell, good to see you once again.

SPEAKER_02 0:27

I think you tweaked that intro a little bit, didn't you, Jake? I might have a little bit. That's pretty good stuff. We are making it. It's it's starting to happen.

SPEAKER_00 0:37

Yes, everywhere. It's it's it's been fun. This has been a fun couple years. I am so this year.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

Yo, I love it. I am so excited about our guest. I I kind of broke my traditional of uh not knowing anything about him by asking a few questions. And I think we lost a pretty good mojo just from I mean, who doesn't want to learn about this guy coming in, huh?

SPEAKER_00 0:59

And I mean it's it's hard not to ask questions when he does what he does. I know this video will bring some mojo back because of some of the crazy things he does. I love it on so many different areas. Like he's also got a phenomenal personality. You'll see that. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:14

But let's introduce our guest. Who do we have today, Jake?

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Okay, here we go. We're gonna watch the video and then I'll kind of introduce some of it, and then your questions will bring out more. Love it. Enjoy some men are built in gyms, others built in chaos. Forged, crashes, pain, pressure, the kind of setbacks that would bury most people, but not him. He wasn't built for comfort, he was built in Oklahoma dirt. A warrior shaped by grip, a champion defined by resilience. One of the toughest riders ever to line up behind the gate, calm under pressure, aggressive with matter, the kind of rider that earned respect long before the trophies ever showed up. Please give a warm welcome for AMA 250, the actual champion. I'm sorry, I I couldn't help it. All the crazy things he does, I didn't see a single video of of him crashing out. Maybe I missed it, but not you know, no gnarly crashes. I I think this just talks about the humility of Trey. And and then he he doesn't take himself too seriously, he's willing to make other people laugh. I was dying on this when I had to share it. So it's on his Instagram, but unbelievable. I I've seen it a thousand times, I'm still laughing.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

Oh man, I uh I started this character like about a year ago, and man, I've had I've had so much fun with that. It's like it's such a good time.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Uh there's yeah, there's more with this like setup where he's sometimes he's got a gut, sometimes he's jacked. I don't know. You'll have to see his Instagram. We'll talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

I love it. Well, good. So, Trey, welcome. Uh, would love to hear a little bit about your background. It it looks like from the intro that you're from Oklahoma. Uh, please tell our audience how the heck did you get into driving and jumping and and almost killing yourself every day on a motorcycle?

SPEAKER_01 4:21

Yeah, so uh being in Oklahoma, there's not a lot to do. Um you're either um playing football or or where I grew up, you know, doing rodeo and those types of things. And so uh my parents didn't a motorcycle shop, and that was just what we did on the weekend. So um I just happened to get better and better at it, and and uh, you know, one thing led to another and um yeah, was able to be a professional and uh still still loving it.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

So did you kind of grow up as a junior? Do they have programs where you know you're racing as a junior and and just kind of doing that stuff on the weekend, or were you just kind of strictly doing it recreational until a certain age?

SPEAKER_01 5:03

Yeah, we we always raced, um, but it was it was never um serious, you know. It was very uh, you know, we go to the race, my brother would race, my dad would race, and uh, you know, just just what we did on the weekends. So um, you know, through the the time spin of the track, you know, people were like, hey, you should try this, you should try that, you should go to this bigger event. And uh did that till I was about uh 15 and then um yeah, turned professional at 16.

SPEAKER_02 5:30

Wow. Did you kind of know you're capable of a professional at 16 years old based on results or what was it?

SPEAKER_01 5:37

Yeah, yeah, it wasn't really up until right before I turned professional that I was kind of aware of of kind of my trajectory. Um, you know, it'd always been kind of a decent rider, but you know, never one that I, you know, was for sure going to be able to uh to really elevate and be a top athlete. So um my my last year that I did amateur, the last two years I did as an amateur. Um I did really well, won a lot of races, won a lot of championships, and um kind of secured um you know my my hopes of uh fulfilling my dreams.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

Yeah. Did you did you stay in in in school or did you kind of kind of go all in and did you have to were you able to do both?

SPEAKER_01 6:21

Yeah, so I was homeschooled for as long as I could. Um but uh at 16 I was able to go through a program called On Track and was able to finish and get my high school diploma uh kind of really fast. And so I was able to finish that up, which which was which was great for me. I wanted to kind of like cross that off the list um before I move forward. So um, but super grateful for programs like that because uh you know, at 16, you know, you're racing 20 weekends a year and uh traveling all over, and it's it's uh it's a full-time job. So um, so yeah, I was happy for that experience.

SPEAKER_02 7:04

So tell our listeners and myself, uh you know, I'm intrigued. This is this probably as fun of an interview I've ever had. You know, so so that daily grind, you're just out there and you've got your trails and your tracks, and you're just kind of getting after it. And I mean, talk about being able to come overcome adversity. I mean, uh tell us, I mean, just how many crashes and how many, you know, especially as a junior, and then I I want to ask a question as you turn pro, but tell our listeners what does this entail as a as a kid who's kind of pushing the envelope.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Yeah, it's it's strange because it's it was normal to me, you know. I I started writing when I was three years old uh with my family. And so um that evolution, it's strange, you know, because a very natural kind of experience for me. Um, but it's it's funny, it's always telling, you know, uh, whenever you're around uh people that aren't around it, um the reaction to it. I remember it was probably my second or third year uh being professional. And um we had my whole family, uh we had a training facility kind of compound where I had a track and and you know, place to train. And uh after lunch, you know, we're all full of turkey, and they're like, hey, we want to see you ride. And and um, you know, it was just wild because you know, they've never really seen anything like that in person. Um in this moments like that, you kind of go like, okay, maybe this is a little bit different, and maybe this is this is a little off. Um, but uh no, it it was um and still is a pleasure in my life and and something I've really enjoyed. And um, you know, I'm not naturally an athlete. Um, and so this is something that um I had to evolve into an athlete. My my skill kind of took me to a certain level, and then um, you know, that the athlete part of it kind of followed. And and so um super grateful for it, and and uh it's been a it's been a lifelong journey and one I've really enjoyed.

SPEAKER_02 9:06

So so as a professional, to tell our listeners like what what's the day in life of a training for you, you know, both physically, mentally, and just being out there, how many hours are you grinding out around a track to get better?

SPEAKER_01 9:22

Yeah, so I mean you've all heard the the 10,000 hour rule. It's certainly, you know, you definitely there's a certain amount of time that you really have to put in. And and um, I would say in the beginning, a lot of that's just on the motorcycle uh as a kid. I mean, it is every day, you know, that as much as you can get on track, uh you're riding. And so that was definitely the case for me. And um, you know, as I became professional, there there was a there was an a side of the the physical aspect that that really started to come into play as well. Um as far as you know, hard numbers, that's hard to like really quantify, but um different parts in the season, different parts uh throughout the year, you know, you you're putting in a lot of training, um, especially in the off-season. So um, you know, you're riding three, four days a week, um, which is probably um an hour, hour and a half of um, you know, 185 plus heart rate. Um, so and then then throwing on top of that, you know, your more kind of base endurance type training, whether it's cycling, running, swimming. Um, and then it's a very uh strength-oriented sport. And so uh there's there's that element as well where you have to really, you know, do the more traditional Olympic style lifting and and those types of things. So it's a very, it's a it's a really unique sport because it's it's really combines uh a level of um kind of sport specific training. You really want to spend a lot of time in the motorcycle. Um, but to really elevate yourself, you've got to have a an amazing amount of endurance and then strength to go with that too. So um it's a it's a really unique sport. You know, I like to say NASCAR is like 80% car, 20% driver. Uh this is really like man or machine 50-50. So um, you know, it's it's uh it's a unique sport, but one I've really enjoyed.

SPEAKER_00 11:22

They're also not flying in the air like you are either.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

Yeah, I mean I I gotta ask, 180, you know, beats per, I mean, having your heart rate elevated to 180, which I think is first of all, I can't, I mean, I know it. That used to be my like PR doing track workouts. I mean and I I mean please help share to our audience myself included 180 on a on a motor car. Is it I can't even comprehend how you got it that high with is it adrenaline? Is it the physicality of it? Is it the whole thing? I mean, how do you get that elevated so high for for how long would that be?

SPEAKER_01 12:01

180, like throughout the whole race or yeah, I mean, if you're racing, absolutely, you know, um in a training day, uh we typically ride from 20 to 30 minutes at a time. And so there's a part of our season that is uh indoors called Supercross. And um the tracks are really kind of short, they're about 45 seconds to a minute long, and uh they're very, very intense. Uh we've got accelerometers that read you know eight to nine Gs uh you know multiple times throughout the lab. So um, and that's not a sustained G, that's a you know split second. Um, but you know, that that's a lot of force to kind of sustain. And um, so supercross is very cardiovascular oriented. You know, you're you're really having to absorb those forces and it's just one after the other, you know, they get jump after jump after jump. Um and so that's a that's a really I mean you're really pushing the heart rate. Um and a lot of that I think is is adrenaline induced, you know. Um, you know, I remember looking at my data and you know, the heart rate's at like 150 on the starting gate, you know. Um, so there's um there's a lot of uh adrenaline involved, especially, you know, what we do is is not exactly the safest thing in the world. And so uh build enough experience doing it and and uh you know you kind of know the the assumed risk. But um, but yeah, it's it's uh our summer series, uh the races are 35 minutes long, and that's you'll see more of an average of like 156 to 175 uh on a training day. In the races, obviously that that elevates, but um yeah, I don't know exactly what it is if it's if it's all the adrenaline factors, um, the physicality, also the heat is a is a really big factor, heat and dehydration. Um you know, in the summer, especially uh it's it it can get pretty hot. You're new, you're sitting on a motorcycle that's you know, piping hot, and then you've got all of your gear and then um the elements as well. So super physical sport and and um you know very challenging, but uh one I really enjoyed.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

God, I could this this just so you know, I could ask this could go on for eight hours because I'm so intrigued. And I want to ask, you know, in terms of your the strategic side of the race, right? Or the just the ability to pick pick your lane and and take your angles and do all that. I mean, that's a gift, right? That's an art form, I gotta believe, right?

unknown 14:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

Yeah, absolutely. Um, you know, you see, like that's something you build, especially as a professional over time. Um, you know, the young kids, a lot of times they come in and it's just guns blazing from the time the gate drops to the as long as you can, you can't sustain that, right? Uh but as as you as you develop as an athlete, you you kind of learn how to you know sustain effort and manage your race and and things like that. So um, so yeah, no, it's you can definitely punch the the effort, you know, to to 195 heart rate, like as quick as you want, but to to sustain that is a very difficult thing. So learning to manage that and then you know throw in racecraft and all that, uh knowing when to pass, how to pass, if you can pass, uh how to set your bike up, those types of things, it all is all factored in.

SPEAKER_02 15:31

So so how is it you know, when you're actually out there and you're racing, you know, how physical is it with the other riders? I mean, is it pretty bang bang? Are you guys, you know, kind of grinding at each other? Is there an art to that, like you know, you know, machoing up and making sure that they know, hey, this is my lane, don't mess with me? Or tell our listeners a little bit about that.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

Yeah, there's there's a certain etiquette for sure, like any sport, you know. Um, you know, I think even in in track and field, right? There's always there's probably those certain guys that you go like, oh man, he's in the race today. He always crowds me out the lane or whatever, you know. So um, you know, it's the same thing with motocrossers. There's definitely different guys that have different personalities and uh, you know, can make good or bad decisions. And so you've got to kind of know who you're racing. Um when it comes down to the line, though, it can get pretty physical. There are fines and things like that. There's kind of a categorization for what is uh a racing incident and what is kind of deemed um, I don't know, I guess flagrant or something like that. So um it can't get physical. You know, I I was uh you know always a super nice guy, but people always said when the helmet went on, you know, that all went away uh because I would get physical, you know, especially if a championship was on the line. So um, so yeah, I think there's there's a great balance, you know. Our sports kind of one of the last, you know, really raw sports that that those types of things happen. Uh it's like hockey without the the fist fist, you know, all the the the punches being thrown. So um so yeah, it can get physical.

SPEAKER_02 17:09

Well, it's it's interesting because I from what I've heard from from Jake and our team, and just from what I've the limited time you and I have talked here, you look like you're you're too nice for this game. So there had to be a uh an element of you that you know when it came the when when the the gates opened, you were ready to and a different side of you. So I I gotta believe that has to be inside there.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

Oh yeah, you know, I I don't I don't know, you know, I'm I'm sure there's a lot of factors that that come into play, but something about that hyper focus for me was just incredibly addicting. Um and that's still why I ride so much and why I'm so involved with what I do is um it's really hard to find that type of uh hyper focus that you experience, that kind of uh flow state, I guess. Um, and it's really easy for me to come by and in my sport and and um you know something that you probably chase forever, I'm guessing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:04

So tell us uh tell tell us, you know, just off the top of your head, biggest accomplishment, tell us, you know, like when I ask you or let and and you talk to our audience best victory, biggest achievement, you know, what you're most proud of in in throughout your whole professional career.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Yeah, the the the championships that I won, um which you know, or the are always the dream, you know, as a kid. And so I'm I'm very you know grateful to have accomplished uh a couple of those. Um, but there's kind of two moments that really stand out to me. Uh I had a spinal fracture in in 2012 and uh had a three-level fusion, spinal cord injury, and it was kind of considered a uh you know career ender. And so the race that I came back from that about a year later, uh I didn't even win it. I got second place. But there was just something special about that night because uh I wasn't sure if I'd ever do it again. And so to kind of have that moment where I was able to not just be out there to but to still be competing uh as a champion, like that that was that was incredible. Um another moment for me is uh we have kind of the Olympics of motocross, it's called the motocross of nations. Each nation selects three different riders and you work together as a team. And uh I was a part of that in 2010 and the US won. And there was just something really special about hearing the national anthem play. You know, we don't get to do that type of thing in our sport often, but to come together as uh in an individual sport to do that as a team, uh as a nation, and uh just it was an incredible moment.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

Yeah, that sounds incre that sounds awesome. I now you mentioned uh an injury, and and I'm even afraid to ask this question because I don't even know if I can I'll cringe when I hear the answers. All right, talk to us here. All those years, how many broken bones? Tell us what's going on. How are you even able to still walk around? But please share with our listeners a little bit of the history of the damage that you put chasing your dream of a professional rider.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Yeah, we we have the sing um in our sport, you know, in in like any athletic sport, um, you know, if you're doing at a high level, you're likely to get hurt. Um, but um it we have to sing in our sport. It's not if it's when. And so um, you know, it's it's very much the case. I quit counting the the bones. Uh I lost count at some point. Um the the I've I've still count the procedures. I've had 15 surgeries. And so um, you know, grateful, a lot of those things have uh, you know, my knock on wood, my knees and my shoulders are still in pretty good shape. Um, you know, my back is is not great, spinal fusion. Um broke my left femur three times, uh, my left collarbone four times, my wrists and my arms. Like I don't even I kind of quit quit counting those. So um, you know, lots lots of things like that. Wrist wrist injuries, uh shoulders injuries, knee injuries, ankle injuries. That's pretty common stuff in in our sport. And um, but where I've really connected with you guys is through uh actually a wrist injury uh that I had. I had a I actually broke my the radial head in my right right arm. And um when that happened, it kind of punched forward and and uh I had a vascular injury to my lunate bone, which is a really small bone in your wrist. Um and so the the bone is kind of partially dead and and supposed to look like a moon, it looks more like an odd square. And uh my wrist just I mean, it totally I was like here to here, and so uh direct current was was a Really like a game changer for me, especially 30 plus years old, you know, a lot of wear and tear on my body. And uh all of a sudden here was something that was um, man, was like, wow, I don't I don't know what this is, but I gotta be a part of it.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

I love it. Now, how did you even hear about it? How did you even get exposed to direct current?

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Yeah, so there's uh uh kind of a guy that goes to a lot of the the races um who's been involved for a long time. Um his name is Dr. G uh Ray Gubernik. And um he was, you know, doing the typical stuff. Hey, this thing's not moving, so let's just grind on it until it moves a little bit. And he said, Hey, I've got this new device, I really want to try it out. And uh I was like, Oh, here we go, another device, you know. Right. Um, you've you've heard all of them. And he did one treatment, and it was like someone put WD40 in my wrist or something, and it like I had all this movement and uh like half the pain. And I was like, I don't know what you did to me or what that thing is, but I'm I'm getting one.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

Yeah, I love it. I mean, it's we've been doing these, Jake. How many years? I mean, it's like we do so many sports, even weekend warriors, doesn't matter. It it never gets old. It's still the best kept secret. We're trying to make it less of a secret and having interviews like yourself, just it's unbelievable how this technology and direct current can help so many people. And to hear that and have our audience listen to it, it it is it's it's absolutely amazing that you know what I mean, that you were able to find that because you you're you you should be our poster child with all those you know aches and pains. But to to get that direct current, to get that blood flow, to get that kind of you know, the neurological aspects of it um, you know, kind of fired back up and and regenerated and reworking is is is the whole key to this, you know, program and the direct current that we do. So, you know, extremely excited that you found direct current. So other than the wrist, have you tell us tell our listeners a little bit else? Do you have you taken advantage of the technology for other areas of uh either you know activation or recovery? Tell our listeners a little bit about how you've utilized your over-the-counter direct current device.

SPEAKER_01 24:21

Yeah, the the main thing for me is I've got a lot of joints and um and body parts that don't move well, you know, and so to uh to strengthen those or to try to get those activated or working is actually it's really hard, you know. I've uh see a lot of physical therapists trying to get creative on how to maintain um muscle mass and you know create function. And so for me, the the main focus, uh which I'm I really want to uh see how I can still improve my performance. Um something I'm learning that that that direct current can do is uh is is exciting to me. Um but for for me at this stage, the the huge benefit for me has has been you know those areas that it's uh just breathing new life into, you know. Um I'm I'm super encouraged by it. Um I'll have to have this wrist fused at some point. Um I don't want to do that for a long time. And so I I feel like uh direct current's given me like 10 years, you know, um with all these all these little muscles and extensors and all these things that um that just aren't moving, you know. I can I can do direct current and it gets everything flowing again and moving again. And and yeah, it helps my pain, yeah, it helps my movement, but just the to know that I've got all these parts of this wrist that are not going to atrophy because I've got something that engages it um is uh super encouraging.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

Yeah, that's great. And and for our listeners that are going, okay, now what are you talking about? What's this direct current? How challenging or difficult is it to use it and and to learn how to use it?

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Was it was it difficult or I mean if you know how to use a STEM machine, you you you can use direct current. Um it's it's pretty basic. It's it's uh the only thing I would say is just be careful. It can really uh it'll go as hard as you want to go. So um so yeah, no, I I mean I've I've stick mostly to the pads, uh, you know, that that's been probably it's so easy, right? Like I can take this device with me anywhere on an airplane if I'm traveling, um, I'm at the track and I'm kind of locking up. It's like I've got this device that I can literally just peel two sticky pads off, throw on, get five minutes, feel a difference. Um, I've used the submersion as well, like that's been really helpful for me. Um so I had a uh an ulnar fracture this year, and um you know that there was a lot of tissue that was damaged in the process. And so to be able to like throw the the uh part of the device in in the water and just get literally my whole arm. Um I mean I did that. I'll just sit there and watch TV, right? Dump my hand in the in the uh in the water and and just like have 10 physical therapists working on my arm at one time. So um, so yeah, it's super easy. The thing I love about it too is like, you know, my wife had a crook in her neck the other day, and I'm like, let me try it, just let me put it on you and see what you think. And she's like, I don't know what that thing is, but it was worth everything. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:39

Well, that's you're you're not alone. I tell you, it's it's funny because we get a lot of those stories, and and you know, even we had an NFL uh trainer who who probably works with 10 different athletes all over the league, and we had a Q ⁇ A with him, and I love his story of he had athletes that he was trying to support all over the league, and to just let him know it's very simple. Put it above and below what what what you're feeling, you know, crank it up to tolerance, move, and you know, nine out of ten times you're you're gonna get that thing reworked. And it sounds like and you know, so and for me, the foot bath, the submersion of water is the easiest. The now it's kind of our go-to. Most of other people, new, new, new clients or whatever, it's like if you do nothing but the foot bath for recovery and there's only three three different really pad placements, it it is an absolute game changer. Uh, you are without a doubt a walking billboard of of of where and how to put pads because you're as knowledgeable about your body as probably most doctors because you you've you've you've gone through the ringer with it. Uh so so are you still racing professionally? What are you doing these days?

SPEAKER_01 28:54

No, so at this point, I I raced professionally for 10 years. And um I the thing that really stopped me was head trauma. Um, you know, when I retired, you know, CTE was a very hot topic in that time. Um, and so you know, I I'd kind of compiled some head injuries over the years. And so um, you know, my wife and I were like, you know what, it's probably time to not be assuming those risks. We got direct current for other body parts. I don't I don't I haven't tried direct current on my brain, but maybe maybe I should.

SPEAKER_02 29:26

Oh, I gotta tell you, we we gotta talk offline. There is if you go to our YouTube channel, I mean we have doctors that they swear by it for concussion protocols, and like it is a uh there's a serious protocols for utilizing it for concussions. Um so take a look at that uh if you get a chance. But so so now you're you're still it's still you're still riding. Um, but you know what uh I'm blown away because somebody told me that I think your your followers are like you've got like 300,000 followers or something, which I mean Jake's been trying to get followers for for the last 10 years, he's got 120. Uh 80 of them are family, and they've tried to unfollow him, but he gets mad at them at Christmas, so they still still follow. How the heck do you get 300 people following you? Because this is a you're in a little I mean, it's just a it's such a niche that I know nothing about. Uh it's impressive that that you're you know that popular and that that that many people want to kind of follow you and and learn what you're doing on a regular basis, you know. Um impressive.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

No, I I appreciate it. You know, one one of the things I I love uh about what I'm doing now, which is uh I'm a test writer and developer for American Honda. And so um I raced for Honda for 10 years and then kind of moved into this uh development role. And the thing that I love about it is it is you know, I was able to build a fan base for years, you know, and and a following. And so now I've still got this great opportunity to, you know, still kind of you know be relevant and and um you know be a uh a face in the crowd that people recognize. And um, I think most of the followers came from racing. I'm not that exciting. Uh maybe it's maybe it's uh Terry Inferno. I don't know that the clip of the guy crashed in the at the at the very part front of it, but nope.

SPEAKER_00 31:19

I disagree. I disagree. I only shared one of he's so entertaining. There's a reason why he's got as many followers as he does. Granted, you're your your motorcycling is is amazing. The videos are phenomenal as well, but yeah, it's a it's a great channel.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

Um we're gonna help grow your grow your channel. So how what what is the best way for people to start following you and and watching not only that fun video, but some of the the the things that you're doing now professionally with helping new riders with with equipment and then more importantly, probably some of your highlights and all the other great things that you've got. So how how can people follow you?

SPEAKER_01 32:00

Yeah, just Trey Canard, that's my handle on X, uh, Instagram, Facebook. Um, I'm trying TikTok. I mean, I I don't know. That's that's I'm a little too old for Z Pop TikTok, but we're we're giving it a go. Um and then TraKinard Official is the YouTube channel. Um, and then my website is canardallforone.com. So um yeah, check us out, man.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

I love it. Well, and then we're you know, we're our whole game is you know, we we get so many professionals like yourself and and weekend warriors, doctors, PTs, you know, uh folks all over all the professional leagues following us to educate on direct current because it is still the best kept secret. So I would ask you, why should anybody follow Nervotics and our direct current and our our social medias? You know, what what can they learn?

SPEAKER_01 32:51

Yeah, the the biggest thing as an athlete, um, yeah, I'm learning, you know, as a lot of my friends are um, you know, enthusiast type athletes. Um, and even enthusiast athletes are looking for an edge, right? They're they're always looking for uh how do I, you know, improve my PR, you know, how do I beat this next guy? How do I um do what I do but don't feel as much pain? And nervotics, I think, is is an avenue that there's such a I I don't use this term a lot, but there's a there's such a low-hanging fruit there um that is so easy to grab. Um, I wish I had this while I was racing, man, because um, you know, it's funny, like even um, you know, you wake up in the morning, you slept strange, uh, you got a crick in your neck, and it's like, man, I don't, I don't know if I can go do my training for the day. You throw direct current on there and it's like, I'm I've got what it takes today. Um coming back from this recent arm injury, I would be a session into riding and be like, man, I I I can't do another one. I'm in too much pain. And uh throw the device on and uh out I go for the next one. And so um, you know, for me, that that is uh if you're looking to gain performance, um, you know, whether that's injury related or just performance in general, um, and there's a lot of stuff out there, you know, there's so many things out there that that people spend money on that aren't gonna give them any value. And for me, this is such an easy, tangible thing to to to do that's gonna give you instant uh feedback. And so um, so yeah, that that's that's the best way I can say it. And uh I'm I'm just I'm super happy with with what I've got going. And um, yeah, I'm I'm a lifer.

SPEAKER_02 34:45

That's a great message. I I gotta tell you, so one of our new slogans because so many professional athletes in all the different sports have been using this direct current for 20 plus years and kept it pretty quiet. So now we have our slogan is to train, perform, and recover like a pro. Oh, perfect. Because it is so true. Because guys like yourself, I mean, I some of the bones and things you described, those names. I mean, it's only Jake probably understands them in doctors because it's like you know, it's guys like you that have taken it to the extreme and and really understand your body and and to perform at the highest level and to win championships. To your point, and you said it perfectly. Any weekend warrior, anybody just trying to get the edge, it it's it's it's it's available to them, and you know, we'd love to help this little community of uh of motocross guys, you know, because talk about an industry of of of trial and error. I mean, the error side of it's scarier than the trial side, but uh just to be able to help and uh but you know, can't can't thank you enough. What a story. I could have gone on for hours, Jake. This is uh this is a whole nother world. We've never had a we've never done a pro athlete like this just because you talk about car crashes. This is worse than car crashes. You have nothing to protect you other than a helmet and and some knee pads.

SPEAKER_00 36:13

So I'm still hung up on the idea that he got on a motorcycle at three. Did I hear that right?

SPEAKER_01 36:19

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

How do you get on a motorcycle at three?

SPEAKER_01 36:22

Yeah, my um, my dad, um, he's like, I'm not buying a motorcycle. So he um he kind of like built one. Um he got it. He's like, I'm I'm well, he went to the scrapyard and kind of finagled the thing together. Um, but um, but yeah, no, that my son's four and he's he's asking for a bike, and I'm I'm like, you know, just looking at all the scars on me, going, man, I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_02 36:47

Yeah, how do you? I mean, that's that's a tough one as a parent. It's one thing when you're a kid, but there's a couple things that I could never do as a parent. Number one, I'm so glad none of my kids were gymnasts because I don't think I could sit through that. Only thing worse is what you did. I don't think I could sit at a race knowing that the the statistical you know, probability of of a crash, a broken bone, watching my son or you know, somebody I I just couldn't even comprehend it. So now as a parent, how is that with a four-year-old that's itching?

SPEAKER_01 37:21

Yeah, it's um I've got the experience, right? Um, you know, I and my wife, my poor wife, man. I I we were married for five years of my career, and and um, you know, she saw a lot of a lot of difficulty. And um, so she's like, no way, you know, we're not doing this. Um, but for me, you know, I see so many of the good aspects of it, what it taught me as far as discipline, um, you know, seeing something through, the work ethic, um, finding a lifelong passion, you know, there's so many valuable things that that um that have mo motorcycling has really brought me. And so I um, you know, if he does want to do it, you know, I'll support it. And hopefully, um, with my experience, I can help him kind of navigate past a lot of the pitfalls that that uh that I experience. But um yeah, we'll we'll see. We'll have to you have to catch up with me in 10 years and I'll and I'll give you the uh the real answer. We'll do that.

SPEAKER_02 38:18

And it sounds like Honda is the only bike that anybody should ever ride. Is that is that a pretty accurate statement?

SPEAKER_01 38:24

Absolutely, man. Yeah, I've I've been uh on the development team uh with them uh for the last uh eight years, and so I'm uh just a huge fan of of just Japanese engineering in general, but um, but my time there has just been uh incredible and and I've really enjoyed it. I've just seen it elevate. So um yeah, Honda Honda Power Sports, man. Go find your dealer, get your bike. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 38:50

And and you got a website uh our our listeners can check out. Do you have a website?

SPEAKER_01 38:56

Yep, canardallforone.com. Um, you know, there's there's merch, there's our videos, there's uh story, contact, all that. So uh if you want to check it out, we'll uh have something there for you.

SPEAKER_02 39:10

I love it. Well, do a plug on your 300,000 followers. We'd love for them to follow us and and find out a little bit more about this secret of direct current because uh this was an incredible uh interview. Very proud to have you on and so glad that we're able to help you out through some of these injuries. I still gonna shake my head. I've never this one is uh you're a different cat. I'm not gonna lie. This is impressive that you're uh you know, I I'm I'm blown away by your success.

SPEAKER_00 39:39

So you finally made Matt speechless. That's why he doesn't know what to say.

SPEAKER_02 39:43

Correct, speechless, because I'm like, I would be one crash and that's it. Yeah, I mean I burned my leg on a freaking motorcycle just getting on it once, and I said, that's it, I'm never getting on another motorcycle.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you one thing. Direct current is making its way through my sport um on the high level. So I'm I'm sure uh I'm sure you'll have many more customers once once the secret's out. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 40:08

Well, appreciate your time. Uh sit back uh stage for a minute and then we'll wrap up the show and love to chat with you for a few minutes after. So okay. Sounds great.

unknown 40:17

Thanks.

SPEAKER_00 40:18

Thank you, Trey. Wow. Unbelievable. Three, age three. I I still can't uh yeah, I can't seem to fathom that for some reason. I I don't even um three years old to be able to get on a motorcycle. It's a specially made motorcycle. Um even if his kid did start, he's already behind his dad, which is crazy to get crazy to even say. It's just uh I just Jake.

SPEAKER_02 40:46

I mean, we we've had a lot of guests on, a lot of pro athletes. I mean, every sport, pretty much every sport. Correct. This was our first, and and I just can't even that the this dude is tough. He's too nice. He looks too good, he's too nice to be this tough.

SPEAKER_00 41:00

But well, the the nicer they are, I I feel like the tougher they are, especially when they've proven themselves, and and he's got proof in the pudding, he's got the merch to prove it, he's got the gear to prove it, he had the trophies behind him to prove it. And I think that's why he doesn't have anything else to prove. He's done it.

SPEAKER_02 41:16

I've never felt more of a like a wimp than I do right now, Jake. There's no chance.

SPEAKER_00 41:21

But he softened it up with his humor, and that's what we're doing.

SPEAKER_02 41:24

I know, but man, I I tell you, well, what a great show. Again, Jake, you are a rock star. So glad to have uh the ability to bring on guests from all these different uh professions and and educate people on direct current, and and more importantly, talking a little bit about uh you know what makes people tick, like someone like this professional motocross guy. I mean, it's he's a rock star. So glad we had Trey on.

SPEAKER_00 41:53

Me too. And it's always a pleasure to work with you. Um and and everyone else who's listening, thank you for joining in. And if you'd like to hear more about our technology or training resources and you want to get more involved in what direct current does, reach out to us at nervotics.com. That's n-e-r-v-e-o-t-x.com.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

And more importantly, how do they follow us? I want 300,000 followers.

SPEAKER_00 42:15

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

So we have not the eight, not your 80 family members that you forced to follow you, but oh well then you can you can give the shout out then. Forget no, no, go for it. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Well, we have our Instagram, that's the big one. Um, reach us uh just at nervotics uh for Instagram. We have a YouTube channel as well. We are also on Facebook. I believe we also have a TikTok page, we're on X, all those good stuff. They're there.

SPEAKER_02 42:43

So all of these things that I have no idea what that means. And I think even Trey said he had a YouTube channel. Did we plug that?

SPEAKER_00 42:51

Uh we we uh uh Trey, uh we we didn't really originally have it, but Trey did plug it. So yeah, we're gonna have to check out we're gonna have to follow through Trey's uh YouTube channel.

SPEAKER_02 43:00

Sarah, did we plug Trey's YouTube channel? Because I want to go to it. I I gotta see some more of these videos. Oh, yeah. Or can I go to the website?

SPEAKER_00 43:10

Well, Instagram can start it. I I'll bet you can you can probably follow it from Instagram. That's a great start because you have a lot of good stuff there. His YouTube channel probably has longer things we can ask him off stage.

SPEAKER_02 43:21

I'm definitely gonna start following. But Jake, again, have a great weekend. Uh happy Friday. And uh oh, we've got another one coming up too a professional triathlete. So that's good.

SPEAKER_00 43:32

We'll see you in a few days. All right, thank you.